Apache Wicket is a Flawed Framework

[Gaetan Zoritchak-2]

I didn't have a look one the wicket books for quite while. Good you told
us. I orderered yours yesterday on Amazon. :)

2011/11/18 Igor Vaynberg <[hidden email]>

> * there are three books written about wicket: two for beginners and
> one for intermediate-advanced users.
> * there is a searchable mailing list archive that spans years upon
> years of users asking questions and getting answers.
> * there is a wiki that lists examples and has some good articles.
> * there is stack overflow questions and answers.
>
> is there an answer to every single possible question out there? of
> course not. no framework has that. look at projects like spring and
> hibernate. do those have great documentation? i bet you would say
> "yes". are their mailing lists any less busy than our own? no. so what
> does that say?
>
> if i had to make up a number i would say that armed with the resources
> i listed you would be able to answer about 80% of your own questions.
> and i think that is a pretty good number. there is a very active user
> list to help you answer questions you cant answer yourself, usually
> faster then a commercial support contract. for free.
>
> not too shabby.
>
> -igor
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Gaetan Zoritchak
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I must admit that I agree with you. While I think Wicket is a
> > great framework, the documentation is not up to par. This tool seems a
> > little too elitist. "If you're strong enough you will find
> > a great framework." It's a shame because even if the mailing list is very
> > effective it slows down the adoption of wicket.
> >
> > 2011/11/17 geraldkw <[hidden email]>
> >
> >> "This is not an april fool's day, it is just an opinion of an
> inexperienced
> >> developer. "
> >>
> >> This illustrates one of the traditional logical fallacies. If you can't
> >> effectively attack the argument, attack the speaker.
> >>
> >> My biggest problem with Wicket is that I haven't found any
> documentation on
> >> the web that really lets me get a solid grasp on the key concepts. I
> read a
> >> lot of poorly written "documentation", weak examples and forum posts
> >> dealing
> >> with something that is only vaguely related to my goals, maybe learn a
> >> fragment of useful info, and then suffer while trying to apply it.
> >>
> >> I haven't looked a Wicket in Action or other Wicket Books, but I have
> not
> >> heard good things. Also, this is the Internet Age and this is web
> >> programming. I have no problem finding documentation on other web
> >> programming languages/frameworks like I do with Wicket.
> >>
> >> If I am wrong, point me to some solid learning materials, and you stand
> a
> >> chance of changing my mind.
> >>
> >> geraldkw
> >>
> >>
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[Gaetan Zoritchak-2]

Super cool list, thanks a lot.

2011/11/18 robert.mcguinness <[hidden email]>

> i'm baffled when people say the documentation is poor, the javadocs are
> excellent and like igor said there are some great books (blogs too!).
>  books
> and blogs get outdated fast since technlogy is rapidly advancing, so *use
> the source luke!*.  Not only will you learn Wicket, but I guarantee your
> Java skills will improve.
>
>
> awesome examples:
>
>
>
> https://github.com/apache/wicket https://github.com/apache/wicket  (scan
> over the unit test, best way to learn any framework not just wicket)
>
> https://github.com/55minutes/fiftyfive-wicket
> https://github.com/55minutes/fiftyfive-wicket  (fantastic)
>
> https://github.com/42Lines https://github.com/42Lines
>
> https://github.com/wicketstuff/core https://github.com/wicketstuff/core (a
> gem, tons of examples on how to pretty much do anything)
>
> http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/checkout
> http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/checkout
>
> https://github.com/jolira/wicket-stateless
> https://github.com/jolira/wicket-stateless  (wicket stateless is
> excellent,
> even easier with wicket 1.5)
>
> https://github.com/reaktor/oegyscroll
> https://github.com/reaktor/oegyscroll
> (endless pagination)
>
> http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/browse/core
> http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/source/browse/core  (jquery)
>
> http://code.google.com/p/jqwicket/source/browse/
> http://code.google.com/p/jqwicket/source/browse/  (jquery, learn from the
> code and roll your own if it doesn't fit your needs, super easy
>
> https://github.com/rjnichols/visural-wicket
> https://github.com/rjnichols/visural-wicket  (great ui tools)
>
> https://xaloon.googlecode.com/svn/ https://xaloon.googlecode.com/svn/
> (excellent!)
>
>
>
> rob
>
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